Pyldrym / Dummer Genealogy
This page was set up by Robert Sewell in January, 2003 to show the Pyldrym
/ Dummer Family since the earliest known times. Robert Sewell graduated
from McMaster University (Hamilton, Ontario, Canada) in 1967 with a B.Sc.
degree in chemistry. After a year of studies at the University of
Toronto's College of Education, he taught high school science in Collingwood,
Ontario for a year and then taught chemistry, physics and general science
in Hamilton, Ontario for twenty-nine years. Robert Sewell retired
from teaching in June 1998. He may be contacted by email from September
to May at the following address:
robert.sewell@sympatico.ca
Source of Information
The information on this page came initially
from the pedigree chart for the Pyldrym / Dummer Family in Professor Edward
Elbridge Salisbury's Family Memorials, published privately
in 1885.
Many thanks to Sewell V. Sample
(pictured to the right) who kindly shared Mr. Salisbury's chart.
Additional sources include:
{Judge} Samuel Sewall, Diary, 1674 - 1729
Prof. Edward Elbridge Salisbury, Family Memorials,
published privately in 1885, pages 215 - 280
Mr. Don Beattie for much help and
encouragement
Mr. Paul S. Monks, Letters,
November & December 2004
Eleventh Century
Mr. Paul Monks, who kindly shared the
following details in November 2004, states the connections suggested cannot
"be regarded as cast-iron certainties but they are considerably more likely
than not . . .."
Odin de Windsores (fl. 1086)
was Chamberlain to William
the Conqueror. |
Hungar FitzOdin (fl. 1086)
who is shown in the "History of the County of Hampshire" simply as "Hungar"
but shown elsewhere as "Hungar FitzOdin", and is therefore probably the
son of Odin de Windsores. |
Henry de Domera (living 1107
- 1128, shown under "Generation One" below) is thought to have been a son
or perhaps a grandson of Hungar FitzOdin. Evidence for this connection
is:
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Henry de Domera owned exactly the same houses in Winchester
that were previously owned by Hungar with no known owners in between.
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The names "Hungar" and "Dummer" or "Domera" sound something
alike.
Regardless of his forebears, our genealogy begins with Henry
de Domera, known to be living in the early 12th Century and who is shown
again under "Generation One". |
Generation One
Henry de Domera, living 1107
- 1128 had a son:
Generation Two
Ralph de Dummera
Living 1148
Died before 1205
Married to Agnes de la Penne, heiress of Penne, Somerset;
which place was afterwards known as Penne-Domer, and still exists as Pendomer,
situated about four miles southwest of Yeovil and four miles east of Crewkerne.
Try this link to MultiMap,
or go to http://www.multimap.com
and search for Pendomer in Great Britain.
Ralph and Agnes had the following children:
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Henry de Dummer
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Robert de Dummer who married and had children. The
line terminated in an heiress circa 1350
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Geoffry, who became a priest and was the parson of Dummer
in Hampshire.
Generation Three
Henry de Dummer had the following
children:
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Sir William de Dummer
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two daughters
Generation Four
Sir William de Dummer, living
1213 - 1243
Sir William married Sibilla de Caune, a sister of Herbert
de Caune, lord of the manor of Drayton, Hampshire.
Sibilla and Sir William had a son:
Generation Five
Sir John de Dummer, living
1268 - 1320
Sir John married a sister of Sir William Paynel, Baron
Paynel, and they had the following children:
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Thomas de Dommer
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Richard de Dommer (d.s.p., decessit sine prole,
died without issue.)
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John de Dommer who married and had children. John succeeded
to the estate in Pendomer, Somerset; his grandson and last male heir sold
it in 1408. The line terminated in co-heiresses in the early 15th century.
Generation Six
Thomas de Dommer succeeded
to the family estate in Dummer, Hampshire.
Died in 1316
Thomas married Joan, and they had the following children:
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John de Dummer (d.s.p.)
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Thomas de Dummer
Generation Seven
Thomas de Dummer was a minor
in 1318, was living in 1349, and had a daughter:
Generation Eight
Ellen de Dummer, heiress
of Thomas de Dummer
Ellen married first to Sir Nicholas Atte More, and they
had a son:
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Thomas At More or Thomas Dummer
Ellen married secondly to William Farley, who was living
in 1395.
Generation Nine
Thomas At More (Thomas Dummer)
had a son:
Generation Ten
Henry Dummer, living in 1428,
married and had a son:
Generation Eleven
Robert Dummer of Dummer,
Hampshire, Lord of the Manor and Patron of the Church of Dummer, Hampshire
in 1450 and 1462.
Robert had two sons:
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George of Dummer who died before 1510. His only daughter,
an heiress, married Thomas Tottishurst of Kent.
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Henry of Dummer
Generation Twelve
Henry Dummer of Dummer who
died in 1516
Henry married first to a daughter of Thomas Starling,
and they had a son:
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Richard, living in 1524 - 1525 who had the following children:
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Joane Dummer (d.s.p.)
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John Dummer (d.s.p.)
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William At More (or Dummer), born on February 13, 1508/09,
was for fifty years Clerk of the Lord Mayor's Court and Comptroller of
the Cahmaber of London. He died in 1593 and was buried at Dummer on July
11, 1593. William married Kinborough Brydges, a daughter of Edmund Brydges
of London, and they had a son:
Henry of Dummer married second to Alice Franklin, and they
had two children:
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Margaret Dummer
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John Dummer (died on January 1, 1570/71) who had the following
children:
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two sons who died infants
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Rose Dummer who married John Edmonds of London in 1561
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Joan Dummer (died in 1605) who married at Dummer on October
5, 1561 to John Cocke
There is at this point, according
to Mr. Salisbury, "a gap that cannot be bridged", but supposed
to have been filled by marriages of Dummer daughters
with those who assumed the name.
The next to appear is John Dummer, Reeve of Overton,
Hampshire, living 1471 - 1506.
Some genealogies bridge this gap by claiming that Richard, the
son of William At More and Kinborough Brydges, did
not die an infant; and is Richard Pyldren (or Dummer) who married Matilda
Dummer in Generation Two below.
However, William At More was born on February
13, 1508/09 and John Pyldren married on October 5,
1541. Were the gap bridged in this fashion, there would be only 32 years
between the birth of William At More
and the marriage of his grandson John Pyldren to Joane Smith!
Clearly, this could not be so.
The private online genealogies making this claim do not mention these
dates or their source(s) of information.
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Generation One
John Dummer of Overton, Hampshire,
living 1471 - 1506, Strong evidence suggests he had a daughter:
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Matilda (or Maude) Dummer
Generation Two
Matilda Dummer who appears
very likely to have been to be the heiress of John Dummer.
Matilda married Richard Pyldren of
Owlsebury and Overton, Hampshire (died before 1540/41) and apparently also
used the names Pyldrem, Domer and Dummer.
Professor Salisbury wrote: "At
all events, this Richard Pyldren and Maude his wife are the earliest ancestors,
of whom we can be absolutely certain, of the Dummers of New England, and
of Bishopstoke and elsewhere in Hampshire." (E.E.
Salisbury, Family Memorials, Privately Printed, 1885, pages
216 & 217)
(Nonetheless, some online genealogies claim Richard Pyldren was the
Richard
in Generation Twelve above who died an infant.)
Matilda and Richard had the following
sons, both named John. Although this seems strange to us to-day,
two brothers with the same Christian name are of frequent occurrence for
300 years before this and perhaps 100 years after. It is unclear which
John was the eldest:
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John Pyldren (or Pyldryn) who married at Newton Vance, Hampshire,
on October 5, 1541 to Joane Smith, daughter of Robert and Agatha Smith.
John Pyldren appears to have died without issue as no children are named
in his will which was dated August 24, 1559 and was proved at Winchester
on June 3, 1561.
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John Pyldren (or Pyldryn)
Generation Three
John Pyldren (or Pyldryn)
of Overton and Durley, Hampshire.
Died in December 1574
John married Alice, who survived him, but about whom
little else is known. She may be "Alice Dummer, widow" who was buried at
Durley on December 15, 1603, but this is uncertain.
John and Alice had the following children:
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John Dummer who is the ancestor of the Dummers of Durley,
Hampshire.
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Thomas Pyldrym (or Dommer)
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Joan who married either Richard White or William Colebrook
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Margary who married either Richard White or William Colebrook.
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Alice who died in December 1568
Generation Four
Thomas Pyldrym (or Dommer)of
Bishopstoke, Hampshire.
Living on September 24, 1625
Died before March 11, 1625/26
Thomas married Joane, and they had the following sons:
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John Dummer of Swathling, Hampshire who had issue:
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Thomas Dummer who married on August 2, 1659 to his cousin Mary Dummer.
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{Rev.} John Dummer who was unmarried.
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Edmund Dummer who married Barbara Cornelius.
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Anne Dummer who married Richard Chemish (or Kemish).
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Dorothy Dummer who married John Hunt.
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Elizabeth Dummer who married Robert Blake.
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Richard Dummer of Bishopstoke (1598 - 1678/79) who emigrated
to New England and had issue:
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{Rev.} Shubael Dummer who married in 1656 to Mary Rishworth. Shubael was
shot at his own door on the occasion of a surprise attack on York by a
large party of Indians and French Canadians in January 1691/92. His wife
was carried into captivity.
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Jeremiah Dummer who married Ann (or Hannah) Atwater; their son:
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Governor William Dummer of Massachusetts who willed his mansion
and 300 acre farm at Byfield, Massachusetts "for the endowment of a free
grammar-school." Click for more about William
Dummer.
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Hannah Dummer who married Jeremiah Allen.
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Richard Dummer who married Elizabeth Appleton and had issue:
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Richard Dummer.
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Nathaniel Dummer who married Sarah Moody; and from whom is
descended Don Beattie.
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William Dummer.
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Thomas Dummer of Dummer Park who had issue:
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Thomas Dummer who married Joane.
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Joane Dummer who married Thomas Nelson of Rowley, Massachusetts.
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Margaret Dummer who married Job Clements.
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Susan Dummer.
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Hester Dummer.
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Jane Dummer who married Mr. Carter.
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Mary Dummer who married on August 2, 1659 to her cousin Thomas Dummer.
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Stephen Pyldrym or Dummer
Generation Five
Stephen Pyldrym or Dummer
of Bishopstoke, Hampshire who emigrated to New England probably before
1638, returned to England in 1646/47 and died in 1670
Stephen married Alice Archer, and they had the following
children:
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Stephen Dummer (1621 - 1695) who married Alice Matthew and
had issue:
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Nathaniel Dummer, d.s.p. æt 81
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Stephen Dummer and a twin, both died as infants.
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Mary Dummer who married Mr. Young.
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Stephen Dummer (born 1670) who married Ann Colebrook and had issue:
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Thomas Dummer (b.1700) who married Mary Osman and from whom
is descended Paul S. Monks.
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Sarah Dummer who married Thomas Storke.
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Jane Dummer.
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Samuel Dummer who married Rebecca.
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Richard Dummer who died unmarried.
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Thomas Dummer who married and had issue:
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Nathaniel Dummer who married Abigail and had issue:
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Nathaniel Dummer who married Elizabeth.
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Stephen Dummer, d.s.p. æt 31
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John Dummer who died a child.
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Abigail Dummer who married John Cosens.
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Hester Dummer who married Thomas Eastman
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Elizabeth Dummer who died a child.
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Mary Dummer who married Walter Gater.
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Sarah Dummer who married Mr. Weekes
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Jane
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Dorothy
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Mehetable who married Mr. Holt and had issue:
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Thomas Dummer.
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Robert Dummer.
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Jane Dummer.
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Mehetable Dummer.
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Sarah who married and had 2 children.
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Ann who married James Rider and had issue:
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James Dummer.
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John Dummer.
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Ann Dummer.
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Mary Dummer.
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Deborah Dummer.
Generation Six
Jane Dummer
Born at Bishopstoke, Hampshire in 1628
Died at Newbury, Massachusetts
on
January
13, 1701, Æt 72.
Jane married to {Rev} Henry Sewall
(III) at Newbury, Massachusetts on March 25, 1646.
For the continuation of this
line, please click on {Rev}
Henry Sewall.
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